10 reasons NOT to put a lift kit in your Jeep

Lifted Jeep

by Garrett · 128 comments

  1. After a lift, your Jeep will NOT ride like it did when it was stock height (don’t believe the marketing hype or message boards)
  2. You WILL spend significantly more money on your Jeep after the lift kit is installed
  3. Lift kits lead to bigger tires. Bigger tires lead to new steering parts, better brakes, gearing upgrades, a stronger tire carrier, refinancing your house, etc.
  4. Your wife/girlfriend will complain that your Jeep is hard to get into and is scary to drive
  5. 33-inch tires will start to look tiny. Your brain does strange things in an effort to make you justify that 38’s are the new 33’s
  6. Fixing driveline vibrations & re-balancing tires will drive you insane
  7. You may experience the dreaded “death wobble.”  If you do, you’ll be investing in new underwear
  8. You’ll get pissed at Jeep for not adding welders and onboard air as standard equipment from the factory
  9. You’ll start wondering if your Jeep can climb random things (e.g. the rock in your neighbor’s yard, guard rails, the hood of your boss’ Mercedes)
  10. There will be times when you hate your Jeep and will want to burn it to the ground
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zach March 17, 2009 at 3:01 pm

But fitting 35s under a nearly stock TJ = Fantastic. LOL

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Garrett March 17, 2009 at 8:19 pm

Actually, I think those are 46s. 😮

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Justin May 11, 2012 at 8:57 am

there actually 44s

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steve September 19, 2012 at 10:56 pm

if you guys are talking about the picture thats a yj..

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Alpine Paradise March 20, 2009 at 9:24 am

How about top heavy? Some thing about keeping the Greasy side down that appeals to me. I have been giving 4×4 tours in the San Juans of Colo for over 20 years and I often see the High Boys running around Main Street but rarely on Black Bear.

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K5KEV April 5, 2009 at 4:37 pm

#4

And the issue with this is????

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Garrett April 5, 2009 at 8:41 pm

I guess it’s not a huge issue…depends on your woman. 🙂 I just added rocker guards w/ a step as well as some grab handles…problem solved.

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brian February 7, 2013 at 3:39 pm

fat chicks cant jump, #4 should be on reasons to do it.

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raul May 4, 2009 at 3:54 pm

ha this is all true..but we still do it..

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stefanie May 28, 2009 at 4:05 pm

uumm…. Hi my boyfriend wants a lift kit and big tires. guess what? im not scared!

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Garrett May 28, 2009 at 8:23 pm

@stefanie He sounds like a lucky guy. Lift that thing and then wheel it like you stole it. 🙂

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Britt June 19, 2009 at 1:07 pm

Ok yah all these things maybe true but honestly who dont love lifted trucks and jeeps? I know I LOVE them. So if you want to spend the money on all the new parts I say F*** yah go for it!!!

I LOVE the jeep by the way 😉

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Allen Forti August 13, 2009 at 12:56 pm

#4) Thats the Idea… wife/girlfriend not allowed on my Jeep. If I know for sure my wife wont get in my jeep i”ll go right now and install the highest lift kit I could find! LOL And you have to be crazy to let your wife drive such a amazing vehicle!!!!

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dude August 14, 2009 at 6:13 pm

there is nothing more cookie cutter or boring than a stock Jeep

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A.J. Salman August 20, 2009 at 1:16 am

Yea,, i totally agree.
because you will turn your jeep to a fabulous WRECK.

don’t keep it stock, but don’t go toOo high 😉

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anthony September 8, 2009 at 5:35 pm

thats funny your jeep is on midway i live down the street i drive a silver tj rubicon on a lift lol

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Terry Schiestel October 11, 2009 at 10:10 am

When a guy wants BIG TIRES on his Jeep, he will put BIG TIRES on his Jeep. then he will want BIGGER TIRES on his Jeep…… so there is no end to it until he can’t go BIGGER !!!

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Scott. BIG Orenge... October 23, 2009 at 12:41 pm

I own a 2005 TJ on 35’s w/6″ lift I did myself after buying it stock (boring!), and now… man, I tell you, Its a blast, I can’t get enough….I can hardy wait to spend more meney for upgrades….its a JEEP THING!!! Maybe this speaker should buy a car if they’re lookin for a smoother ride!!!

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Zack November 2, 2009 at 10:43 am

I have an 01 lifted wrangler sport…35’s 6 inch..its beastlike and I love it..My girl acts like she’s scared but she digs it haha…truth is lifted jeeps are chick magnets!

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muddontires December 1, 2009 at 9:28 pm

GET A LIFT,FAT GIRLS CANT JUMP””””””””

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Steve March 7, 2012 at 7:54 am

Would make an awesome sticker!

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muddontires December 1, 2009 at 9:31 pm

6.5” rough country lift with 35/13.5 will fix that problem.

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Big daddy December 3, 2009 at 11:46 pm

ya 01 wrangler sport 4 inch with 35’s not quite as high as i want it but i ain’t had no problems that i can think of other than havin to pull other people outta holes ha ha

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HADEN;) March 9, 2010 at 3:13 pm

i have a 97 tj with dana 44s detroit lockers front and rear 4″ rough country springs and custom long arms with 2.0 fox shocks .. it rides way smoother than it did stock. and my girl loves it !!!

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Garrett March 9, 2010 at 3:39 pm

@Haden
Sounds like you’ve really got your ride dialed in. Congrats!

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HADEN;) March 9, 2010 at 3:15 pm

o and im running 35″ procomps.. plenty big for wat i use it for

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Natalie March 22, 2010 at 11:54 pm

My man got himself a 1971 J-10, lifted it and put on 35’s. I can’t wait to drive that baby through the desert… he’s teaching me to drive in May. 😀 So excited.

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Garrett March 23, 2010 at 8:58 am

@Natalie
That’s great! J10s are cool rigs…I love when people keep the “antiques” going (and aren’t afraid to take them offroad as well). My wife and I do some “team” driving as well sometimes. I get to run the lockers when she takes the wheel. 🙂

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Steven March 26, 2010 at 10:44 am

i got a 2007 jk unlimited 4″ lift with 33″ i love it and couldnt be anymore happy

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Nic March 30, 2010 at 1:56 pm

Zack too bad you cant tuck 35’s under a Stock tj you can barely tuck 33’s. you Need atleast a 2” lift and thats ***** inless you cut the fenders out and put fender flairs.

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akn April 2, 2010 at 5:26 pm

Hello all,

I had my 09 JK/4idr unlim lifted a month ago. After 6m scouring the net, ended up with the AEV 4.5″ full suspension lift, running on BFG-KM2/35s. It’s a kick pulling up next to H2 mall-Hummers and towering over them. Even more pulling one out of a mud pit in NJ’s Pine Barrens… AEV kits are expensive, but well worth it. Especially if you value what’s in your seat 😉

On the highway, 80-85 no problem – until it gets a little windy… Then its time to slow down or risk soiling your boxers 😉

Anywho – life is short… Yesterday’s gone, tomorrow might never come… All you have is the now. Enjoy.

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Don't worry about it May 5, 2010 at 6:13 pm

Why would you drive a jeep and not lift it

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mason May 6, 2010 at 6:57 am

i have a 94 yj with 2.5 lift with 33” and its my baby and it can go threw any thing i want it to go threw (witch isnt much but it fun as hell) 🙂

my dads got a 99 tj with 6” lift with 35” and he loves it

my brother has a 98 tj with 2.5 lift with 31” and he loves it

its a jeep thing you wouldnt understand 🙂

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Tyler May 7, 2010 at 8:53 am

agreed i love my 99 tj lifted 4 inch’s and 35″ Irok swampers.. i love pulling up to the stock jeeps and asking the well know question… Why so small? and pull away

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Cody May 7, 2010 at 3:59 pm

I have a 94 cherekee with 5 1/2 inch lift and 35 inch tire

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mike May 12, 2010 at 1:33 am

i absolutely love my cherokee
i get everything from rustys off road
and smp fabworks
if i got the money i might as well spend it
ona jeep, lol
its got it all
i put just under 16k into it
and i drive it everyday

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z71 May 24, 2010 at 8:20 am

i just lifed my truck another $3000
angled tips, straight pipes, glass packs,
had it for years never get rid of a good
CHEVY!!!

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Garrett May 27, 2010 at 10:12 am

Does it have a sticker of Calvin peeing on the Ford logo? LOL, to each his own! Glad you enjoy your rig.

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Jeeps For life June 10, 2010 at 10:12 pm

Hey Guys!
Since you guys are talking about Jeeps and my first car I got is a 1989 Jeep YJ 4.2L carburetor engine. I am actually looking for some help from you guys. I am thinking of putting on either a 2.5″ full lift kit or a 4″ full lift kit along with 15″-17″ deep dish rims and when I mean deep I mean really fat rims (when looking at them from the front or the back), and I am planning on putting 37″ tires or bigger. Any suggestions of where I can get these from for a good price along with them being shipped to Canada? I would appreciate it.

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1991 Jeep Yj July 11, 2010 at 2:49 pm

No doubt about it that 4wheelparts.com has great prices and deals. If you go to ask.com you can also look up redeem coupon codes to get certain percentage off you total cart purchase. I bought a 1991 Yj 4.0 about 4 years ago that came with 33″ and a 4″ lift. Since then I have installed a dana 44 frontend, dana 60 rearend, 2″ body lift, custom lift shackles, rocker guards, a spring over axle lift, rhino liner, all new interior, a brand new sail cloth best top, 42″ super swamper TSL’s, chrome mod wheels, all new custom built cv drive shaft, over the top steering, chrome tub front and rear bumpers, chrome grill, and I still plan on doing tons more. A true Jeeper dosnt bitch about their ride, They hold their head up and say damn straight thats mine. Sure they cost alot of money to invest in but if you dont like it then dont buy one. And as of lift, go to whatever you want and if you end up scared to drive it then your just a big p*ssy.

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Coos_24 December 27, 2015 at 6:40 pm

Any one else has the hair stand up on the back of your neck when a Jeep is called a car.

2011 Jk 3.5 lift running 35s with 5.13 gears

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Jeeps For Life July 15, 2010 at 7:46 pm

Thanks 1991 Jeep YJ. I want a beast when driving down the road especially with those lowered card I would just love to pull up either behind them or beside them and start down. But yea as you were saying it will require a good amount of money but I am willing to spend and good amount. I also wanted to get clarified about the u-joints I heard if I raise it more the 2.5″ with the suspension lift kit I will be looking at changing the u-joint for the drive shafts? I just wanted to get it clarified.

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Garrett July 15, 2010 at 8:16 pm

Once you get up towards 4″ of lift you certainly increase your chances of needing a longer driveshaft to help eliminate vibrations from steep driveline angles.

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Smitty August 21, 2016 at 2:26 am

I have a jeep Cherokee xj and love the nuts and bolts of it, im new to “jeeps rule ok!” What are the biggest tyres I can put on my stock jeep, it has 17i” wheels,I have a 3″ lift kit I’m going to fit, can you see any problems.

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Jeeps For Life July 15, 2010 at 9:28 pm

That’s true you have a good point. I know I don’t know a lot about Jeeps and I apologize in advance for asking a lot of questions, but I am thinking what a better way of finding than to ask people who already have done a lot of things to their Jeeps and know first hand what not to do. I also want to know since the drive shafts would need to be changed what about the gears within the transmissions and rear differential would you recommend I increase the gears to handle the lifting and big tires?

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Garrett July 16, 2010 at 9:43 am

The need to change gears depends on a few things such as: what gears you currently have, what size tires you’re going to, and what your personal preferences are. Your YJ (stock) has either 3.07s, 3.54s, or 3.73 gears (it varies by model). If you can find the tag on your rear differential (assuming it’s still there) it should have a ratio stamped on it. If there isn’t a tag, you’ll need to pull the diff apart and read the numbers stamped in the ring gear (hopefully you’ve still got a tag on the outside). 3.73 gears is your best case scenario since those are the “lowest” gears of the 3 mentioned. I ran 33″ tires with 3.73 gears in my TJ for several years and it wasn’t that bad…you definitely lose power, but it’s still very driveable. Some people run 33s with 3.07s, but personally, I think that would be a little under-powered for my taste (especially since I take my Jeep on the highway). Regearing is pricey (~$1,000-$1,500 to pay someone to do it), so you want to make sure that you’re confident in your choice of tire size and only have to regear once.

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Jeeps for Life July 18, 2010 at 5:21 pm

I looked for the tag but since its there is a lot of rust I didn’t have any luck getting the ratio for the gears. I am going to be running either 40″ tires or 44″ on 15″x10″ deep dish rimes and with either a 4″ lift or 2.5″ lift for suspension and another 3″ body lift kit (maybe still debating on that). I will be using it on the highway to go to back to school so I need smooth drive on the highway and an amazing ride for off roading.

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Garrett July 19, 2010 at 8:43 am

40″ or 44″ tires are a whole different ballgame. For starters, you’ll definitely need new gears with tires that large. Additionally, you’re going to need completely new axles as well. Your stock axles aren’t going to handle 40″+ tires (esp. if you go offroad)…you’ll destroy them.

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Jeeps for Life July 19, 2010 at 1:42 pm

Oh lol ok then…. I thought wrong then haha. So then what are the biggest tires I can get without having to change the axles because I don’t want to change the axles just yet. But the differential is something I will change for sure.

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Garrett July 19, 2010 at 2:53 pm

If you’re going to wheel it, 33s are probably the max tire size. If you baby it, you might be able to get away with 35s. The stock rear axle (Dana 35) is your weak link. The stock front axle (Dana 30) should handle 35’s, but the stock rear axles are prone to breakage with larger tires and/or aggressive offroading.

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Jeeps For Life July 22, 2010 at 1:14 pm

Ok so what axle would you recommend I get when I do get to the bigger tires for off-roading.

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Garrett July 22, 2010 at 2:07 pm

There are a few options:
1. Buy “Super 35” kit to make your existing Dana 35 axle stronger
2. Replace Dana 35 with a Dana 44 axle from an old Commanche (MJ) or Cherokee (XJ)
3. Replace Dana 35 with a Ford 8.8 axle from a 1995 (or newer) Ford Explorer
4. Buy a brand new Dana 44 from an aftermarket manuf like Currie

Replacing with a used 8.8 or Dana 44 are probably the cheapest (and most popular) options.

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Big-Bad-5 July 23, 2010 at 3:06 pm

1981 CJ-5, 6″ springs, 4″ shackles/shackle reversal (front), spring-over (5″ more), stretched drive-train 8″ front and 10″ rear (needed the room), squeezed in 454, full-width axles, OX lock on front and rear, spinning 54″ Interco tires, and a FULL cage!

Must plan turns early!

My wife asked “why?” Because I can!

Only thing taller are the big rigs…and we’re almost eye-to-eye!

Can’t lose it in the parking lot, it’s the tallest thing out there…

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Garrett July 23, 2010 at 3:57 pm

Nice! Pics please!! 🙂

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rob July 29, 2010 at 12:38 am

death wobble sucks

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Mik August 21, 2010 at 1:43 pm

I have a 99′ Jeep, for my 16th i got a measly two inch lift kit, and along with that the death wobble… tried to explain it to my dad and he just ignored me and told me to deal with it… lol he tried driving it to figure out what was the problem, but it would never do it when he was in the car. One of my friends was driving behind me when it happened, he said he thought the car was about to explode. we fixed it with a 50$ steering stabilizer from auto zone.

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Garrett September 1, 2010 at 3:52 pm

Death wobble can pretty scary, esp. if you’re cruising at a good pace. I got some severe death wobble when I first lifted my TJ…had to change my boxer shorts when I got home. 😮 “Usually” the trackbar or steering stabilizer is the culprit.

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josh August 29, 2010 at 8:35 pm

96 xj runnin 31″ on 3.5″lift with folded flairs. About to roll over to 2000,000 on the ODO. in about 700 miles. Ya gotta love Jeep and the I6 4.0 HO

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Jackson September 29, 2010 at 5:44 pm

Ok I have 35 by 14 1/2 all it did was make my jeep like 20 mph faster only body lift make it set different if you do a 2 inch lift and 32 by 12 1/2 tires it will basically be the same way you just have to get it aligned will fed Seth wobble if not get stabilizers by the way jeep are to much fun that is their only problem

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Dray October 2, 2010 at 10:44 pm

2007 Wrangler Unlimited Sahara
6″ lift kit
37″ mickey thompson baja mtz’s

rides like a jeep should.

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Matt October 6, 2010 at 11:29 am

91 yj 13inches and 38.5 boggers. fully built 350. wheels and drives like a jeep should!

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Michael McBroom October 7, 2010 at 4:36 pm

I have 1990 Cherokee and I want to put 33’s on there and i didn’t know if a 4.5″ lift would give enough clerance, I really didnt want to go with a 6″ kit.

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shaughnt October 7, 2010 at 10:27 pm

What’s up everyone!! I have a 88 Wrangler and I have a few questions.

I am looking forward to a RE 4″ lift, right now I have 31’s and won’t be able to afford 33’s for a little while. Thoughts?

What kind of rear end do I have assuming its stock?
What kind of front end do I have assuming its stock?
What are lockers?

I also wanted some advice about this old carb that I’m dealing with. The previous owner, some time ago, replaced the fuel injection with a carb. What would be the purpose of that? Why would someone do that? It seems to me that having fuel injection would be the way to go.

Thanks

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Chris October 14, 2010 at 2:18 am

My specs. ive spent over 50,000 on my jk
Pioneer CD/DVD in-dash flip out player with Infinity front speakers and Kicker rears speakers (the sub and amps go with me); additionally it has a camera mounted on front bumper for views
via the DVD screen during extreme climbs, in carbon fiber center dash face

Cobra 75 WX CB/weather advisor with 5′ FireStick antenna

Nth Degree 6″ long arm lift with tummy tucker

ORO AirRock airbag suspension system to allow for your choice of ride heights for on and off road, off camber correction, hill climbing and descending adjustments
(No more sagging rear when fully loaded for the trail, same ride height due to airbags)

Rock Hard rollcage, full (with all additional tie bars) – to floor

4.88 Yukon gears front & rear

Superior front chromoly axles w/ dustboots

Superior rear chromoly axles

RockCrusher differential covers front & rear

ORO U-Turn steering system

High Angle Driveline with 1330 u-joints

Nth Degree front differential slider

Nth Degree rear deferential slider

Nth Degree oil pan skidplate

Five 35″ x 12.5 R15 Goodyear MT/R’s w/65% tread on Eagle Alloy faux bead locks

Walker Evans fully adjustable/rebuild-able shocks with reservoirs (models 500-16-310 and -312)

ORO SwayLock in-cab air actuated sway bar release

Kilby OnBoard Air with 3 gallon belly tank and two air chucks for airing up tires/air tools etc.

K&N FIPK Cold Air Intake

AirRaid throttle body spacer

Warn Rock Crawler front bumper with brush guard hoop

Warn 9500 Ti winch

100′ Viking Synthetic Winchline w/ hawse lead

Delta H4 conversion headlights

PIAA amber auxiliary driving lights

Garvin Ind. Wilderness rack system rear bumper/spare tire carrier with trail rack, drivers side and swing-away passenger side jerry can racks, axe & shovel mounts, and Hi-Lift mount
(all items included)

Garvin Ind. Expedition rack (currently not mounted)

Kilby BodyClamz body mount sliders

Kilby steering box skid plate

Kilby gas tank skid plate

Kilby Interior Trail/Storage rack

Skidrow radiator skid plate

Poison Spyder rear Trails corners

Poison Spyder Rocker Knockers with slide bars

ORO LED tail lights with LED license plate light

Kodiak Ind. dual battery system with Odyssey batteries (primary battery is less than 6 months old)

Aftermarket clear lenses for all parking lights

Louvers installed on hood for extra heat dissipation during low speed crawling

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Chris October 14, 2010 at 2:19 am

I meant my tj

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Steve October 28, 2010 at 8:51 pm

i have a 95 yj and it started out with 35 baja claws 7 inch lift lockers front and rear 488 gears and lots of fun then one day it happened it started to look small again so one day i thought i would put another lift and some tires so now it has a 13 inch lift and hopefully before to long ill have some 38.5 superswamper boggers but its true its alot of fun alot of money and work

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cole November 1, 2010 at 12:15 pm

i got a 89 jeep wrangerl with a 20 in lift and 46 in mcikey ts and its fun as sh*t and yea the girls do love the jacked up jeeps

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97 tj in nc February 13, 2011 at 5:50 pm

If you have a 20 in lift jacked up is the right word as you are going to fall over if you lean to far out the side. lol

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Jeepfreak December 1, 2010 at 6:45 pm

84 CJ7, 16″ lift, 19-44 boggers, 1 ton corporate running gear. Drive down the interstate at 65 miles/hour and you should see the expression on some people’s faces-they are totally blown away!! Hell yea, fun, fun, fun, and lots of work but well worth it.

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Garrett December 1, 2010 at 7:55 pm

^This comment is useless without pics. 🙂 Just kidding…would love to see pics though. Sounds like an awesome rig!

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Elijah February 21, 2011 at 1:16 am

I have a 95 yj, and I won’t a lift kit but don’t won’t to spend much money on it
I have looked at shackle lifts but thts not high enough
And I won’t to know how easy/hard is a leaf over axle
Is it a very good lift kit? Plz reply

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Garrett February 23, 2011 at 11:50 am

Elijah,
Spring over axle (SOA) lifts can require a lot of fabrication, time, and tweaking (which can end up costing a lot if you don’t do everything yourself). So, depending on your mechanical skills, you may want to price out a standard suspension lift and weigh the differences (keeping in mind the time investment).

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AjWood February 24, 2011 at 9:09 am

Hey guys, i love reading all your comments on jeeps! Love em.
now its my turn, just turned 16 finally got my 2000 jeep wrangler se 4cyl 2.5

now its time to get some ladies.

everything is stock
suggestions on what to do?

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that guy March 14, 2011 at 11:05 pm

I HAVE A 99 CHEROKEE WITH A 3IN ON 33S RIGHT NOW THIS WEEKEND IM PUTING ON A 10.5 IN LIFT WITH 38 INCH MT TIRES AND I LOVE BEING BROKE BECAUSE ONCE YOU GET ON THOS TRAILS NOTHEN ELSE MATTERS BUT TO HIT IT HARD

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MadMan March 25, 2011 at 9:51 pm

1996 XJ 4.0 auto np231, 140kmiles, 7″ long arm y-link front, 4-link and coils going on in rear, SYE, Tom Woods, 17″ moab wheels on 33″ MTRs, 4.5″ backspacing, CB, Rear custom bumper with tire carrier, and high lift carrier, Pioneer/ Iphone handsfree, Wideband o2, full custom exhaust

gears, locker, axle gussets, ladderbox frame all coming soon

NEVER ENDING

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john June 26, 2011 at 1:30 pm

hey i just have a quick question. so i leave in september for bootcamp, im going into the marines. and i bought a 1990 yj for the summer just to have fun in. right now its sitting on 33’s. do you think it would be a bad idea to put a 3 inch body lift in? i dont plan on this jeep being my daily driver once i get out of bootcamp i just want to have some fun this summer.

thanks
-john

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Garrett June 26, 2011 at 8:02 pm

John,
Most people don’t recommend more than 1-1.5″ body lift b/c of the center of gravity issues as you go higher as well as looks (a 3″ body lift really creates a BIG gap betw body & frame).

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Devin June 27, 2011 at 11:42 am

John i would suggest that u put a budget lift on your jeep if u just want to have fun with it for one summer. these are also known as shackles all they do is rise your suspension with out much damage to ride quality as you keep your existing springs.

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xj July 11, 2011 at 6:43 pm

i agree with xj owners like myself i have two on stock one lifted love them both screw wranglers.

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Justin August 5, 2011 at 7:08 pm

Jeeps are suppose to be lifted. I am on my 5th jeep. 05 jeep grand cherokee. And yep its lifted and a pussy magnet. So suck it!

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Jack August 12, 2011 at 10:11 pm

Are you jokeing my wrangler haz 600 hp 4 in lift kit 35 by14 1/2 black and all chrome attachment it werth abowt 80,000.00 up I never lost to an xj in my jeep to list all of my parts it wud take much time . O an you can wheely I win

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Jessie August 29, 2011 at 2:53 am

man thats not shit i have a srt 8 motor in a wrangler 14 in lift sitting on 52’s
thanks to a fab shop in my back yard and a few strings were pulled and i have the baddest monster in LA look it up on youtube boy is legandary

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Kelly September 30, 2011 at 7:20 pm

Im a girl and I drive a Jeep and I was the one that wanted a lift on it. Also I like my 33 10 50s! Silly Boys Jeeps are for Girls :p

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andre October 18, 2011 at 12:48 am

i gotta queston i gotta 2011 jeep wrangler rubicon and i possibly have a two inch lift idk if the rubicon comes with an installed lift but i think have a 2 inch lift any ways the tires on 32 and i wanted to go to 34 would i need to lift my jeep any more for 34 inch tires and if i did let me know the cons like if the ride would be rougher and such, thanks.

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steve March 1, 2012 at 5:52 pm

Am putting a 6.5 lift kit with long arms and “35 tires. i like to know if my 4.0 L is to small for it. thanks steve

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Garrett March 1, 2012 at 9:54 pm

Steve, your 4.0L will be fine with 35s as long as you regear properly. If you run 3.07s, for example, your Jeep will drag ass w/ 35s. However, if you run 4.88 gears you should be happy.

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DailyDriven April 6, 2012 at 6:27 pm

Your 4.0 is built for torque as it’s a straight 6. 35’s would drive you fcking crazy driving it daily with anything less than 4.11 gears. Like me for instance, I’m on 30’s until I find 33’s and I’ve got a 5speed XJ with 3.07 gears. Even with such small tires it makes me want to pull my hair out driving it as a daily. Soo remember, bigger tires means you’ve gotta get some better gearing otherwise you’ll want to set your jeep on fire. END OF STORY

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Lee Schweizer March 16, 2012 at 6:38 am

Can I put lift kit on my 2012 jeep compass ?
thanks

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DailyDriven April 6, 2012 at 6:28 pm

Go return your compass and find yourself an old Jeep Cherokee.

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Julia June 28, 2016 at 7:59 pm

BBBOOOOOYYYYYY get a dang wrangler or get out of this forum SMH

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Bmonroe April 23, 2012 at 8:46 pm

Just lifted my 04 wrangler, 33″ tire….mickey thompsons, rides great. 12 miles per gallon, forces the 488 gear change. Hopefully that will make things better??? Money money….oh well ….looks awesome.

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cindy May 6, 2012 at 9:16 pm

my son installed a lift kit on his jeep…he now has the death wobble…he’s tried everything he can to get rid of it..what does he need to do to get rid of it

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Garrett May 6, 2012 at 9:54 pm

@Cindy: unfortunately, there are a variety of things that can work together to trigger death wobble (e.g. alignment, balancing, bad ball joints, etc.). That being said, if it truly is bad “death wobble” (i.e. violent/scary shaking), the front trackbar is often the culprit (especially if the stock trackbar was reused and a new hole drilled). Make sure the front trackbar is torqued down to spec and has zero movement at both the axle and frame ends. I’d recommend starting there and expanding your search to other areas if the trackbar doesn’t appear to be the issue. FYI, if you ask around you’ll probably get a lot of people who tell you to replace the steering stabilizer. This “may” temporarily fix the issue, but typically it’s just masking a larger problem that will eventually resurface. Good luck.

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Patrick December 6, 2012 at 1:36 pm

The DW I got on my Jeep was caused from an alignment issue that could not be resolved except with a long arm kit. That was back when Long Arm kits were still being fabricated in people’s back yards and not by any major manufacturers yet. In any case, the cause was the lift since it pulled my front tires back slightly and out of alignment. It was like a shopping cart wheel, if you can picture it, shaking violently as it was moving forward. Eventually, it got worse because the bushings started to wear out. Once I got long arms and new bushings the problem went away. Fortunately, my DW only happened at slow speeds like 35 mph. Some people get it at high way speeds and that’s extremely frightening to think about. Anyway, I wish you the best as you try to figure out the issue but as I’ve learned over the years as I was diagnosing my DW, it’s different from Jeep to Jeep which makes it difficult to pinpoint. It’s also best to try to diagnose early on because once parts start to wear everything will appear to be the problem.

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Mike (4dr JK daily driver) May 17, 2012 at 3:19 pm

Garrett et al.,

I have a 2012 JK 4 door. It’s a daily driver and I love it because I’m a new father and it allows me to have the freedom of a jeep and the practicality of a family-sized vehicle.

My wife and I tried to take it off road at a national forest in my area that has trails. We made it about 30 yards on the easiest trail before I realized that I was going to have to turn around because I was bottoming out on nearly every mound (and I wasn’t just taking them head-on, but diagonally and slow).

Because of this experience — the joy of initially hitting the trail and the disappointment of turning around — my wife and I have been talking about getting a lift kit. Believe it or not, it’s her idea, so I don’t have to worry about the ‘fed-up wife’ issue, which seems to be pervasive throughout these boards and blogs.

I make decent money and would be able to afford a high-end kit and new tires/wheels. But, I don’t make enough money to sink 6-8k initial investment AND have to continue to dump in money on a regular basis. I also don’t have time, inclination or know-how to play weekend mechanic.

Talking to you is one link in a long chain of research that I intend to do prior to deciding whether to go down this path, so don’t feel overly pressured. However, reading your article makes me think that you would have a unique perspective and I really want your opinion on whether I should even start this journey in the first place.

If you think I should continue down this path, please throw in a little insight into how big a lift I might need as well. I’m not talking about climbing mountains, just doing some easy and moderate trails about once a month. Part of the problem though is that it is a 4 door, meaning more scrape potential due to the longer wheel base.

I really appreciate your advice.

Mike

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devin May 26, 2012 at 1:19 am

mike pick up a budget lift or spring spacers give that a try its a cheep ooptoin for now but i would sugest since your worid about draging going wiht a good skid plate the good ones take up less room and are more durable

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Chris July 18, 2012 at 2:17 pm

I also have a 2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited that is my daily driver as well as off road camping vehicle. We have installed a 3″ BDS suspension lift, 33″ tires, rock sliders and a Rock Hard oil pan skid plate since the oil pan is out in the open just asking for a rock to puncture it. We are able to run most level 3 and a few level 4 trails in Texas with it. The skid plates still get a lot of use (which is why I bought them) with the 3″ lift, but by only going with 3″ we did not have to change any other components of the Jeep such as drive shaft or gears. Also, with a 3″ lift we can still go to 35″ tires without an issue. So far, with all of the items above included, we spent $3K ($1400 on tires / rims, $800 on lift, $400 on sliders and $400 on skid plate). Jeep does stand for “just empty every pocket”, but with the 3″ lift you can get the most lift possible without having to change anything else out, plus you still stay within manufacturer warranty.

Let me know if I can help further.

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clbm June 2, 2012 at 10:59 pm

I have a 2011 Rubicon & I’ve played with the idea of lifting it — just a little 😉 I’m a Single Mom & it’s the only transportation I have, so I don’t want too much but I’m thinking a 2.5 lift would be just right. I’ve found new wheels I really want to put on & I know I’d need new tires (tho I have no idea as far as sizes go) but I’ve heard once you start making adjustments you really can’t stop — that if you lift you get bigger tires — bigger tires mean changing out the back bumper to fit the new spare & then having to re-gear… Is all this true?? (I’m open to any helpful comments, I know I love my Jeep but have no technical knowledge past driving & playing in it & no one in my circle does either)

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Daniel November 30, 2012 at 3:51 am

Hello I saw your post, sorry for it being so late, but I have a pretty good summarization of the whole Jeep experience. I am 19 years old and own a 2005 Rubicon and spent… well more money on my Jeep than I would like to think about because it is my favorite project. All I have on my Jeep is a 2 inch old man emu lift, which drives better than stock, but allows for me to put 33s on it with no problem. I have taken it on the trails and have found out that this is a good setup, but if you are going to be doing serious crawling then you need a much larger lift, possibly a 6 inch lift, which turns into about 10 to 12k in expenses after you do figure in all of the stuff you listed above. So the best thing you can do, since you have a JK Rubicon is to just get a 2.5 or 3 inch lift, throw you some 35s on the thing and cruise in style. It is recommended that you have a tire carrier bumper, which takes the stress off of the tailgate from the rear tire, so that you don’t have to worry about tailgate sag or sizing issues. These can be a bit pricey, but whether you upgrade the tire size or not it is still a great addition to the jeep. So really if you get 35 inch tires installed on your stock rubicon the only difference you are really going to notice is a slight lack in power. Since the gears have not been adjusted to either 4.56 or 4.88 ratio the Jeep will not have access to every bit of power it had with the stock 32s, but it should be just fine. So I recommend if you don’t want to have to worry about anything then leave it stock, but if you want a nice rig that turns as many heads as you do driving it, then go ahead and get the 35s and budget lift. Good luck and I hope this helps.

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Matt July 8, 2012 at 7:08 pm

2000 jeep wrangler 4.0 NV3550 np231 60k miles. 2 inch custom lift on 37’s with all the goodies you can imagine. Daily driver and every weekend rock rig. Wouldn’t trade it for anything. Only a pussy will tell you not to lift a jeep for these reasons. Get a prius if you’re scared to lift a jeep

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Dylan July 17, 2012 at 10:22 pm

Me and my cousin rode all the way to Nashville in his grand Cherokee sport with a 3″ body lift from myrtle beach SC it rode way better than his daddy’s stocked 2011 wrangler

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Nicole July 18, 2012 at 9:50 am

Burn it to the ground? That sounds like it is NOT a good relationship! Haha. Good luck to ya. I’m going to try and get a 14in lift on my Chevy. XD

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phil August 15, 2012 at 11:24 pm

hey i have a 2008 dodge nitro and i want to get a 10″ lifs and 35s, it has a 3.7L does anyone know if the nitro would have enough powe to do that? and were would i get a lift kit for my dodge nitro?

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john G. September 17, 2012 at 7:43 pm

so i have a 1990 jeep wrangler YJ and i want to put a 4″ lift kit on it, but alot of people tell me i have to do this and this, so what would i have to do? the biggest concern is the drive shaft or as i was told “slip yolk” i would have to get a limited slip so it wont slip out the transfer case lol, any comments or help would be awesome!!

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Wheels on Trucks October 10, 2012 at 4:38 am

I am planning to put a lift in my jeep. But after reading this blog I have canceled my plan. Thanks for sharing this.

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misty March 20, 2013 at 11:48 am

I have a 06 liberty and want to put on big tires. What would I need to do?

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slud April 2, 2013 at 10:49 pm

We are first time Jeep Owners… 2002 Jeep Wrangler. This is just a ” drive around in the summer with the top down Jeep” but we still want it to look cool….. We were thinking a lift kit but after reading this I am thinking against it… would you think just bigger tires?? how big could we go without putting a lift on?
Thanks for all the feed back!

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devin March 10, 2014 at 8:35 pm

One thing for you to consider is a body lift all this will do is add space between the frame and body tub leaving more space for tires. Or a spacer lift which simply inserts between the spring and shock tower to provide a small lift.

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wade April 20, 2013 at 12:45 pm

10 in lift on my jeep cj8 with a briggs and stratton motor

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jesse April 24, 2013 at 6:30 pm

only reason not to lift a jeep is gas mileage that i can think of… i got a 89 jeep pioneer lifed 3 in has 31 inch mud tires and still has penty of power i can smoke/burn the 31in mud tires with no prob…. only get 7 mpg tho also i have done alot to the motor

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bobby July 17, 2014 at 10:29 pm

ok i got a 93 jeep wrangler my first jeep and yes its a 4cy anyways i think its all stock no lift but the tires are 31 10.50 i want to put a 4 inch lift on it what all would i need to make this happen i dont go mudding are anything just want it for the looks and its not a dailey driver thanks for all help

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Emmanuel Castaneda October 30, 2014 at 6:36 pm

I just put a rough country 4″ suspension on my yj. What do you guys recommend I do to it so I wont lose horse power and rides smooth

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Michael November 11, 2014 at 1:07 pm

I have a 99 XJ sport. What size lift would I need for 31″ mudders? I have 235s on now with stock height and not much room. Could maybe go 245 but I know it would rub. I was told 1″ spacers and 2″ blocks would do the trick but I wamna take sure. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Oh and talking about lifted trucks? I have 65 Chevy with a 454 sitting on 42s with a 10″ suspension and 6″ body lift. Had to lower almost everything and rebuild entire front end but was worth it.

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willd83 November 27, 2014 at 11:16 pm

I have a 2001 Cherokee sport. Im wanting to install a lift kit whats my best options.

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Tristan December 4, 2014 at 1:25 pm

3in rough country on 31s i put wheel spacers on rides like a dream and pulls just fine

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Nikki March 4, 2015 at 12:38 pm

I’m a girl with a lifted JK the only person who complains is my 66 yr old grandma. Girls like Jeeps too! THANKS

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tattoo john October 25, 2015 at 7:12 pm

Nikki ,YES girls also look good in jeeps ,you tell em!!!

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chrissy89 March 25, 2015 at 1:17 pm

I have a XJ sitting on 35s and I love it…

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Cody September 7, 2015 at 10:23 am

I have a 90 YJ. 4.2L. Ax15 ,soon to be replaced with a nv4500 and np231.
2″ body lift, 3″ of shackle lifts and 4″ lift springs.
Put at 14 bolt rear end with 4:11 gears, full floater, and did the spring over at the same time. Factory Dana 30 until I can find 78 ford Dana 60.
Bed liner on the inside. With all new gauges and wiring.
Put the mega short yoke eliminator and a double cardan style CV drive shaft.
Went with Clifford cam and header. Offenhauser Intake.
0 deck the block , bored it 60 over. and milled 60 off the head. Went with roller rockers.
Holly 470cfm truck average carb.
Very loud. X pipe with gas packs. No cat. Lmao.
O and 35″ tires for now. Saving for 44s

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Derek Sculley September 11, 2015 at 4:54 pm

If you drive a stock jeep…. sell it to a real jeeper… jeeps are made to be customized , upgraded and built up… go buy a tracker if you want a daily drive with a soft top… oh BTW I have a 5.5 inch Rubicon express lift with 33×12.5s and it drives like a Cadillac. Crappy lift = crappy ride… Oh and a real jeeper doesn’t just upgrade because it looks cool. They do it because they broke something in a Mudd hole or on a rock climb and that’s when you upgrade that stock part you broke. Or when you were off road you realize you can’t climb as much as the guy with the 35s or can’t get through that hole.

So what I’m saying is if your jeep doesn’t get dirty while offroading then sell it and buy some tampons.

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Dean November 17, 2015 at 9:46 pm

Hey guys, 42 years old and finally a Jeeper…Recently purchased a 04 tj 4.0 sport. Trying to figure out if I have a lift. It came with 33s and I have had people tell me that it looks like it has a lift but I don’t know. To me they just looked stuffed in there with no room, looks good but when turning on a incline the front scrubs. Also my top speed is about 70 and that’s a while to get there! should I change gears? 1 -4 gets up and goes but hit 5th and its like hitting a sand trap

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Linda March 1, 2016 at 12:55 pm

Hi all~
Ok, I am a Mom………(stop throwing stuff already, just help me!) My YOUNG daughter is about to get her permit, wants a Wrangler, and wants it lifted. Who does this lifting thing, and how dangerous is it? Thanks. I promise after you answer my questions, I will leave your forum. 🙂

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Julia June 28, 2016 at 7:55 pm

Im 18 years old girl and all I have ever drove is a jeep, and i LOVE it!!!! Over the years i have made the best memories in my jeep and have also built many friendships with other jeep drivers at my high school. I actually feel safer in my lifted jeep than smaller cars because i sit above other cars. Not much work at all but most of the maintenance is really easy and you can do it by yourself.

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Doug West May 17, 2016 at 6:09 am

this is very broad, people who want to get a lift on their jeep usually have a good idea of what has to be put into it. and as far as the money goes, a jeep is never finished, with all of the aftermarket parts available, the project never seems finished.

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Scott May 25, 2016 at 7:12 pm

I have a,90 3″ body and 4″ suspensions on 35’s
It drives straight as an,arrow,with no,hands it’s lockers,front and rear with 456 gears
It rocks
I did,replace,the valve cover and I had to buy gromits and oil cap,seperate,,,now,the,oil cap is,to,small and i can not find one to fit all this came,from Napa…
ANY IDEAS,,ALSO. The plugs that Napa,says ,,are longer than,ones in it. And I a am,afraid,to put the,ones it calls for so I put short,ones,back in
It’s 2.5 4 cyl

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Rick June 2, 2016 at 7:55 am

The jeep in that picture is just plain stupid and ugly as dog shit. Whoever did this is a moron and deemed there once perfectly capable jeep useless and incapable of any off road terain other than… maybe mud!!!

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Julia June 28, 2016 at 7:44 pm

People like this do not deserve to even look at jeeps! Please just sell your jeep cause you do not appreciate it. These type of people disgust me, so please get out of this forum and buy a prius. I am a girl that drives a lifted jeep and judge any stock jeep that drives past me because they simply do not even deserve a jeep wave. Also on another side note any girl who gets into a lifted bad ass jeep and complains does not even deserve to go for a ride in the beauty!

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Mary July 7, 2016 at 10:47 am

New Jeep owner here! Would love to lift my 2016 JK Unlimited and will one day. Right now she is a working girl for the Postal Service.

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